Canon T3i vs 60D

Canon Rebel T3i vs 60D : Who should buy the T3i?

Is the Canon 60D Worth the Extra Cost?

Canon T3i vs 60D: The Canon T3i’s release so soon after that of the Canon 60D is cause for speculation. Canon seems to be exploring a fancy new business model in which they release a product and then shortly afterwards announce a similar, less expensive one that also has some slick new features, all but sealing the fate of the earlier product. We saw it happen with the Canon 1Ds Mark III and the subsequent 5D Mark II, then again (to a lesser degree) with the 5D Mark II and the Canon 7D (because of the latter’s superior AF system), with the 50D and subsequent Rebels T1i and T2i, and now it seems that the announcement of the Canon T3i threatens to do the same with the 60D. Let me say before anything else that the Canon 60D is still probably the superior camera, but it may be difficult for most entry level photographers to pass by the T3i to get to it. Let’s take a closer look at the details.

The Canon 60D was released into a market that was already dominated by the popular and inexpensive Canon Rebel T2i / 550D. The 60D, however, had dropped the magnesium alloy body of the 50D and previous x0D series models in favor of a lighter, consumer oriented polycarbonate body. It also sported the same 18 megapixel sensor as the T2i, the same ISO range, the same number of focus points, and the same video capabilities. To the average consumer, the major differences were that the 60D had a spiffy new articulated LCD, a somewhat sturdier feeling body, and slightly faster shooting frame rates and shutter speeds.  The 60D also had the often overlooked (by me) advantage of wireless strobe control without the addition of the Canon ST-E2 transmitter.

Canon 60D and T3i Articulated LCD, Rear View
Matthew Gore | Light And Matter Rear view of the Canon 60D (left) and Canon T3i (right). Both cameras now feature an articulated LCD.

Enter (4 months later) the Canon Rebel T3i (also known as the 600D). The latest incarnation of the Rebel appears on the scene with the same high resolution, articulated LCD as the 60D, integrated wireless strobe control, new shooting modes, a host of in-camera processing “creative” options, and perhaps most significantly in the video department are cropping mats (to preview different aspect ratios on the LCD while recording) and… digital zoom.

“Digital zoom” has always been a dirty word in the past; we’ve seen it on camcorders and point and shoot digital cameras since the end of the 1990s. Digital zoom traditionally has involved using the same captured information from the sensor and simply cropping in, basically magnifying a lower resolution portion of the frame, which caused a significant degradation of quality. So, if the full sensor captured 1 megapixel, for example, the cropped image might only be displaying a small portion of that information… perhaps .5 or .3 megapixels, but with the pixels enlarged to fill the screen.

The digital zoom of the Canon Rebel T3i is a different story, and it’s actually an ingenious use of the extraordinarily high resolution sensor designed for the still camera. The highest resolution that our HDTVs can display today is 1080p, which is 1920 x 1080 pixels, just a hair over 2 megapixels. The T3i’s sensor, as we know, is 18 megapixels, so even when the highest resolution video is captured, only a small part of the available information from the sensor is being used. Because the sensor has such high resolution, the digital zoom can simply make use of a smaller area of the sensor to capture the video, and there will still be plenty of receptors in the area to provide the full 2 megapixel resolution of 1080p.

Beyond the items mentioned above, the Canon T3i is very much like the T2i, which was already quite similar to the 60D. Take a look at the chart below to see the details:

Canon Rebel T3iCanon 60D Canon Rebel T2i / 550D
Canon Rebel T3iCanon EOS 60D
Amazon Price (body)$699$999$699
B&H Price
$699$949 $629
Body MaterialPolycarbonate, Fiberglass and Stainless SteelPolycarbonate, Aluminum, Fiberglass, and Stainless SteelPolycarbonate, Fiberglass and Stainless Steel
LCD Size / Resolution3.0"
1,040,000 pixels
3.0"
1,040,000 pixels
3.0"
1,040,000 pixels
LCD Articulated?YesYesNo
Sensor Size14.9 x 22.3mm (APS-C)14.9 x 22.3mm (APS-C)14.9 x 22.3mm (APS-C)
Crop Factor1.6x1.6x1.6x
Sensor Resolution18 Megapixels18 Megapixels18 Megapixels
ISO Range100-6400
+12800
100-6400
+12800
100-6400
+12800
Total AF Focus Points999
Cross-Type AF Sensors191
AF Light Level Range-.05 to +18 EV-.05 to +18 EV-.05 to +18 EV
Metering System63 Zone Point Linked Evaluative
9% Center Weighted
4% Spot
63 Zone Point Linked Evaluative
6.5% Center Weighted
2.8% Spot
63 Zone Point Linked Evaluative
9% Center Weighted
4% Spot
Exposure Compensation1/2 or 1/3 stops1/2 or 1/3 stops via thumb dial1/2 or 1/3 stops
Max Frame Rate : RAW (14-bit)3.75.3 fps3.7
Max Burst Duration RAW (at highest frame rate)6166
Max Burst Duration JPG (at highest frame rate)345834
Shutter Speed Range1/4000th - 30 sec.
+bulb
1/8000th - 30 sec.
+bulb
1/4000th - 30 sec.
+bulb
Maximum Flash Sync Shutter Speed (standard flash)1/200th sec.1/250th sec.1/200th sec.
HD Video Resolutions1080p, 720p1080p, 720p1080p, 720p
Available HD Video Frame RatesPAL and NTSC
24/25, 30 at 1080p
60 at 720p
PAL and NTSC
24/25, 30 at 1080p
60 at 720p
PAL and NTSC
24/25, 30 at 1080p
24/25, 30, 60 at 720p
Firmware Sidecar AvailableUnder DevelopmentAvailableUnder Development
Media TypeSD / SDHC / SDXCSD / SDHC / SDXCSD / SDHC / SDXC
Weight570g (including battery)675g (body only)530g (with battery and SD card)
Viewfinder Coverage95%
0.87x magnification
96% Frame,
.95x magnification
95%
0.87x magnification
Built-In Wireless Strobe ControlYesYesNo

Benefits of the Canon 60D

In opening this article I mentioned that the Canon 60D is still a better camera than the T3i, but I may not have made it obvious in the following paragraphs, so let me explain why.

The Canon 60D will primarily benefit one type of photographer: the action photographer. Although the two cameras in question have the same number of focusing points, the points are not created equal. The T3i, like the T2i, has a single cross-type focusing point in the center, while all 9 of the 60D’s focusing points are cross-type, giving it faster and more reliable AF performance, especially for off-center subjects. To capture high speed objects, the 60D also features a top shutter speed of 1/8000th of a second and top flash sync speed of 1/250th, as opposed to the 1/4000th and 1/200th of the T3i. And while the T3i can capture 3.7 frames per second, the Canon 60D can manage 5.3, giving 60D shooters 3 extra pictures in every 2-second burst.

This is not to suggest that you can’t shoot action with the T3i; you can. You’ll simply have a higher percentage of good shots with the 60D.

I spent much of last evening playing around with a 60D and a T2i (I don’t have access to a T3i yet), and I find that the 60D really does feel significantly better in the hand. It feels solid and comfortable, and it also has the thumb wheel for exposure compensation, probably my favorite Canon feature of all time. Both cameras, however, feel much better than the top point and shoot, though, at least to my fingers. And there is also the fact that 60D shooters don’t have to tolerate having “REBEL” printed across the front of their cameras. How embarrassing for us Americans.

Conclusion

Because the 60D is so precariously perched between the powerhouse Canon 7D and the enormously popular Rebel series  (not to mention competition from the Nikon D7000), it’s not surprising that in the few months since it hit the shelves, its price has already dropped from $1100 to $899… just $100 more than the T3i (update 6/18/11: the price has since gone back down to $899 with an instant rebate, but the body only is hard to find in stock).  With only $100 difference in price, it seems almost foolish to pass up the 60D, unless:

  • you’ve never used a DLSR before and need the beginner features of the T3i (in camera guide and program shooting modes)
  • you plan to take a lot of video and really think you’ll use the T3i’s digital zoom or video snapshots
  • you primarily shoot portraits, landscapes, or moderate paced action and don’t want to spend $100 on features you won’t use.

You may also want to consider the Rebel T2i if the video features are not important to you (keep in mind that in all three cameras, video is primarily a manual-focus operation (though slow AF is available by pressing the shutter button half-way). If you don’t mind spending a couple hours with the manual, don’t care about an articulated LCD (or are concerned about its durability), the T2i is a virtually identical camera and the body costs a mere $675, at this point.

As usual, please let me know if you have any questions or comments!

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Daniel P

Buenas tardes, estaba apunto de comprar la t3i pero me resulto un amigo que queire vender la 60D de el mas barata, con un leten 16-200. Soy principiante y apenas quiero incursionar en el mundo de la fotografia, me gusta mucho fotografiar paisajes.

Que me recomendarian.

Alfred Lopez

Hola Daniel,

La 60D puede ser la mejor camera de los dos, si quieres una camera mas rapida para coger fotos de acción. Si quires tomar video, la mejor camera el la T3i porque si quieres usar el enfoque digital. Yo recomiendo el 60D porque tiene el mejor foco automatico y es mas rapido. La lente EF-S 18-200mm es una lente general que le servira bien.

Si tienes otras preguntas, no dude en preguntar.

— Alfred Lopez

Chuck

I am looking to purchase a new camera to take pictures and videos of my daughter playing fast pitch softball. I can’t decide between the T3i and the 60D. If I bundle the camera I get the 55-250mm IS II lens and save $150.00. With that being said which camera would you recommend?

Chuck

Thanks for you quick response. I truly appreciate your feedback.

Kendra McGinnis

Hello,

I have recently been exploring Concert Photography. I have been doing it for a little over a year now with a basic point and shoot and am now ready to buy my first DSLR. I just bought a Canon Rebel T3i and had been battling back and forth between the Canon EOS 60D and the Canon Rebel T3i and decided on the Rebel. I shoot both indoor and outdoor. I have started to get photo passes, but a lot of my shows still are not which I will use the point and shoot I have for that. With Concert Photography as my main objective- did I make the right choice in your opinion by going with the Rebel? I figured since this was my first DSLR it would be a good start.

Thanks!

Sean

Hey Matthew,

Thank you for very helpful written review!

Which one would you suggest if I will use more ofter for taking Full HD videos? What is your suggestions?

Thanks :)

jijo

I’m very much interested in learning photography. My googling skills has revealed that for t3i or any other rebel, it’s really hard to configure ISO, Aperture and shutter speed where as for 60D you just have more custom buttons and wheels. Thought 60D will put a hole in my wallet, I don’t want to get frustrated with controls in the long run. Are there any budget canon camera out there which has such button and wheels to adjust iso and other configurations?.

cindy

I am trying to decide between these two cameras. I am a mom and would use this for the purpose of taking photos of my kids, macro, landscape. Would the t3i be okay for this?

cindy

Right now I have a Canon Powershot G12 and am having issues with my son’s baseball. I think the g12 continuous is 2 fps.

Christina

Hi Matthew,
First of all, very nicely written review. Very helpful!

I am thinking of getting the 60D (Body Only) myself. I currently have a Rebel T3 and shoot primarily with the 28-135 lens. It takes great portraits but I feel like I have outgrown the T3 (not the “i” series) and need to invest in something of better quality. I shoot mostly portrait pictures. What is your suggestion on this switch? Any other suggestions would be great too!

Thanks again and Mahalo from Hawaii!

Christina

Thank you Matt!

Cindy

Thank you sooo much. I think for now I will go with the T3i and then down the line after I have learned what there is to learn I will go with a higher end camera. Keep up the great work.

Sazzad

I own a Canon 60D and this is my first DSLR camera but I can add one extra point about canon 60D that have not mentioned here that is canon 60D do have a excellent user access to all its function and really very easy to operate. Still there is many feature that I need to study about this camera but till now I can say this is the device you are looking for if you want to go for extreme photography with limited budget.

thanks.

Rodrigo Rostirolla

Should i trade my 50D with a t3i ?

(congrats on the review on both cameras !!! the best one i´ve found)

Thanks !!

Rodrigo Rostirolla

Ok, thanks Matthew !!

i´ll think about it !!

Rodrigo Rostirolla

Should i trade my 50D with a t3i ?

(congrats on the review on both cameras !!! the best one i´ve found)

Luciana

gracias por tu respuesta! Lo que quisiera saber es el tiempo de vida de la canon t3i, tengo entendido que la 60d tiene hasta 100.000 disparos, es por eso que estoy pensando en cambiarme a esa camara. La t3i tiene menor tiempo util? gracias

Luciana

Hola, como estas?muy bueno tu artículo. Tengo una consulta para hacerte. Tengo una canon t3i, y quiero cambiarme a una 60d por cuestiones de que tengo entendido de que la bateria le dura mas tiempo y la 60d tiene mas tiempo de vida.. Eso es cierto? Se que ambas cámaras tienen similares caracteristicas, lo que estoy buscando es una cámara que me dure años.. La t3i siento que es como una cámara descartable. Gracias!!!

Jamie Gray

Hi Matthew,
I am planning to buy a 60D or a t3i to photograph my artwork (oil paintings). I am moving up to a DSLR because I need a camera with a larger sensor to be able to offer large prints sizes. Based on your article, I am leaning towards the t3i because I have never used a DLSR before and think I might need the beginner features of the T3i.
Do you think the Canon 50/2.5 macro lens would be a choice to photograph paintings? The paintings range from small 8×10 to large 30×40.
Thank you!
Jamie

Jamie Gray

Thank you! I appreciate your feedback.
Jamie

PJ

I have a question. My wife most recently had a T3 rebel. Unfortunatly it was stolen on a recent trip to Malaysia. I upgraded her to a 60d with a 70-300mm IS USM telephoto lens. Well, her parents just bought her a Rebel T3i as a gift to replace her stolen camara. Should I take the 60d back as both camaras are basically the same or just keep both? I guess we could put the 50mm 1.8 portrait lens on one and the telephoto on the other.

Deb Rogers

Great article, and the Q&A is equally helpful!

I am purchasing my first DSLR. I am a hobbyist, but have felt limited by my Lumix especially when it comes to leveraging DOF to get better pictures (love the park series of photos in this article!). I do lots of candids, portraits, and nature photography – birds, flowers, and soon, whale watches. I’m pretty sure the 60D is for me – the faster shutter speed will help with whale watches – but can you recommend a set of lenses for this beginner? From the discussions above, I think the 50mm/f1.8 is a must for the portraits, and I am taking to heart your cautions about the lenses with really wide ranges. I rarely use a tripod. Thoughts? I am trying not to overspend at the beginning, but really don’t want to miss those breaching whales!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Deb

Deb Rogers

Thanks, Matthew. I had forgotten about the T4i! I appreciate the advice.

Deb

Deb Rogers

Hello again! I’ve had the 60D for over a year now and I LOVE it!! My primary use of the camera has changed, however, since I first sought your advice. I have a cake decorating business (www.SensationalCakesAndMore.com) and about 95% of my photos are of cakes and cake pops. I have the EFS 18-135 kit lens, and it does a great job most of the time but it’s really limiting in the macro range. I don’t want to overspend and buy more lens than I need, but I don’t want to cheap out and be disappointed, taking into consideration your advice to invest in good lenses. A friend recommended a 50mm prime lens – I think it was a 2.8? – but I was hoping to get your take on a recommendation that might help me step up my game a bit in the macro range.

Other things to consider – sometimes I’m struggling with low light and horrible backgrounds… I need to get a new tripod to address the low light situation (after all, cakes don’t move that quickly); I bought a cheap one and it’s flimsy and difficult to set up and adjust so I never use it. Control over DOF is important to me to minimize the backgrounds when I’m taking pictures in reception halls.

Any advice you can provide is appreciated!

Alfred Lopez

Hey Deb,

Allow me to put in my 2 cents (especially since Matt is sleeping at the time of this writing :-)). I haven’t used the EF 50mm f/2.5 macro so I cannot speak to the image quality, but I can talk about the EF-S 60mm f/2.8 macro. The 60mm macro renders beautifully sharp images and really nice bokeh. I’ve used this lens, not only for macro work, but for portraiture as well. It’s a bit more expensive than the EF 50mm though, but I think you get a better lens. On the other hand, the EF 50mm has the advantage that you can use it on a full-frame camera, should you decide to upgrade to a 6D or a 5D. The EF-S 60mm only fits APS-C cameras like the 60D. You may want to rent both and see how each performs, but if you decide to go with the EF-S 60mm, you won’t be disappointed.

In regards to tripod…yes, get a nice sturdy on that allows flexibility with positioning (to get to hard to reach places, etc). You will spend a few hundred dollars, but you can be sure that your camera will not fall off of these. In general, you’ll be buying a “tripod system”: the tripod legs and attacheable head. These are usually sold separately since you can interchange heads for different functions. I have the Manfrotto 055XPROB tripod with the 496RC2 compact ball head with quick release.

Hope this helps a bit,

Cheers,

Alfred Lopez

Bill Minton

Just confirming Matt – doesn’t distance to subject also affect DoF?

Alex Kiuchi

Hello Mathew,
I am an amature photographer and skateboard filmer. I have been directed to the 60D and T3i countless times and now that i am looking into getting a new camera/ video camera i decided that I should get the T3i because of its better video features. After reading this I’m not sure if I really should. It seems the 60D would be a better choice especially because i take a lot of pictures and plus its video capabilities are not far off from the T3i too.

I was also looking into getting a newer version of the Sony Handycam instead of one of these since I have been using a Nikon D5000 for a while and could continue using it for pictures only.

I would really like your opinion on this matter.
Thanks in advance!

Alex

Alex Kiuchi

YES! Thanks a lot! The T4i seems to be exactly what i wanted. It is a little pricey though, so I’m probably going to have to wait a bit to get it. I actually have a very old Handycam, but the options are very limited and i hate that. So i am trying to avoid another one if possible.

Well thanks a bunch Mathew! It looks like the T4i would be the way to go

Donnie W.

Matthew

Thanks for a great website…it’s been bookmarked. :)

Anyway, I’m looking to upgrade to my very first DSLR. I bought a Panasonic Lumix FZ35 a few years back….I like a lot of ZOOM. I’m a hunter and enjoy taking wildlife photos, landscapes, DIY projects and SOME video. I was looking at the T3i but then began wondering if I should go ahead and invest the extra couple hundred bucks in the 60D. The slower shooting speed of the T3i concerns me but I also get hung up that it is considered superior (video-wise) over the 60D.

We are going on an Alaskan cruise this August. This has really gotten me kicked into high gear for a camera purchase. I’m also hung up on which lense(s) to buy. I was looking at the Tamron 18-270 Piezo drive lense for an all around walking lense. I also would like something with some reach, possibly the 200-500mm Tamron….its just a tad on the expensive side for me. Do these sound like wise choices for the type of photography I enjoy?

Thanks
Donnie

Donnie W.

Matthew

Thanks for your quick response. I just checked out the Pentak K-30 and she’s a beaut but won’t be available until sometime in July. I leave mid-August and want at least a couple months worth of practice with my very first DSLR. Basically, I don’t want to have to solely rely on AUTO mode while in Alaska. But thanks for the recommendation…that would have fit my needs exactly. I’ll just continue to be cautious with my camera equipment near H2O. :)

I’m really at a loss if I should buy the 60D or T3i….I keep going back and forth. Would the T3i be a good camera for capturing birds in flight? Seems like I’m looking for reasons NOT to buy the 60D….maybe it was because I had my heart set on it before I looked into the 60D.

Would that 70-300mm be sufficient as an “all around” lense for Alaska? I’d like a lense that I can reach out and get pics of whales but also close up shots of myself or my wife while on the boat (fish poses etc) .

Thanks
Donnie

Donnie W.

Thanks again for the reply.

I’ve encountered another dilemma. What is your opinion of the Sony A57 when compared with the Canon 60D? It seems to be a better camera. Only thing I don’t like is the EVF but I’ve yet to see it up close.

Donnie W.

Researching takes one helluva burden on me. Its so frustrating trying to buy something that will serve me well.

I think the Canon 60D will suit me just fine. I went to a shop today and held both the 60D and Nikon 7000 just to give each a fair comparison. I’m a little dissappointed the Nikon shot a little faster than the 60D especially since I’m so set on buying a Canon.

You make a good point about lens availability. Would a future firmware update make the 60D shoot faster? I have no clue.

Donnie W.

I’ve checked out the Nikon 7000 but still tend to favor the Canon. Important factors for me are the articulating screen and video.

Checked out the Sony A57 today. Man, that thing is FAST!!! Didn’t like the EVF or the screen that only folds down and not off to the side.

One more question regarding the 60D. Is it silly for me to purchase a camera that was released going on 2 years now? Is it worth waiting for something else? However, the whole point is my Alaska trip. It just seems the camera is a tad bit out-dated.

Donnie W.

Matthew

I apologize for posting this here in the 60D vs T3i article but wanted to get your valued opinion. I’ve changed my mind again. You can delete this if you feel necessary.

I’m an up and coming hobbyist photographer. I want to master the camera controls and not have to rely on AUTO mode. I’m looking to upgrade from my Lumix FZ35. I am a hunter and enjoy taking photos of the animals I pursue. One thing I like about the Lumix is that I have room to fit into my hunting pack. BUT I need something faster and with better image quality.
As of yesterday, I had finally decided on the Canon 60D and was planning to buy tomorrow. Then I looked into the mirrorless systems and became intrigued by their smaller size and comparable IQ. AND here we go again. I’m tired of the research but now I have even more ahead of me since I hadn’t considered a Micro 4/3rd / mirrorless.
The main reason for this upgrade is our upcoming Alaskan cruise. Got to thinking that I would probably get tired of lugging around that big 60D. Also, I wouldn’t have room for it in my hunting pack and therefore it would be useless to me.
Things I need in my new camera
1. DSLR-like quality photos
2. Interchangeable lenses
3. Smaller size
4. Fast continuous shooting speed
5. Availability of Tele- zoom lens for wildlife photography ( was going to buy a 70-300mm when I considered a DSLR)
6. Quiet operation (I take a lot of photos within 10-20 yards of deer, turkey, etc from a treestand)
7. Good low light operation
8. HD video
9. Weatherproofing would be a bonus but I can sacrifice this since it will limit my choices.

Thanks in advance for the help.

Josh Campbell

A friend of mine has just purchased a 60D, this is his upgrade from an XTi. He received it yesterday and has noticed that the noise when he takes a picture is extremely loud compared to his XTi. Is this normal? He says it is at least 10 times louder. Is is possible his new camera would in fact be defective? Any help is appreciated.

Lindsey

Any recommendations on a good, yet easy to use photoshop program to enhance my T3i photos? I wanted to get your opinion before I invested in any particular one. Thanks!

Tina

I have a Canon EOS Rebel T3i but am in the beginnings of playing with this thing. The main reason for getting the camera was for pics of the kids and family and my daughters senoir pics, also my husband Drag races, I don’t know camera settings lingo and in the most simple terms could someone help me with setting my camera up for drag racing daytime and drag racing night time and depth of field for outdoor settings? Would love to also know how (if you can?) and how you can save certain settings so that you don’t have to reset every time you begin to take pics? Also video?

Bill Minton

Hi Tina,

Daytime pictures of action (drag racing for example) will be easier than night time.  If you want to get a good shot of the car coming off the line, (front wheels in the air, etc.) you’ll probably want to use a fast shutter speed.  Start by putting the camera in Shutter Priority mode (Tv on your T3i) and rolling the dial at the top until you are at 1/500th or faster (1/1000, etc.).  Take a picture and see if it turns out ok (bright enough).  If so, you’ve found your starting point.  If there is some motion blur, increase the shutter speed one click and try again.  Practice taking pictures of other cars first so you’ll know what settings to use when your husband is on the line.

For another neat effect, you could try panning.  Lower your shutter speed to around 1/60th and move the camera horizontally as his car drives by.  Take the picture when he’s directly in front of you on the track, but don’t stop panning sideways when you take the picture, keep moving the camera until the shot is totally done.  Done correctly (with a little practice) the car will be in focus, but the background will be blurred to give the feeling of motion.

Nighttime action shots require fast shutter speeds just like daytime ones, but they require a fast lens (f/1.2, f/1.8, f/2.0, etc.) to let additional light in.  If you are using the lens that came with your camera, you may be disappointed.  Those lenses aren’t usually fast enough to get decent low light action shots.  Luckily, most drag strips aren’t really that dark.  They are often lit up fairly well, but if the one you are at isn’t, and it is fairly dark, you may have to use a flash…one that you buy separately.

You’ll have to provide a little more information on the depth of field question.  Are you wanting a shallow DoF, where the subject is nice and sharp, but the background is blurred?  If so, that requires that same type of “fast” lens with a wide aperture (f/1.2, f/1.8, f/2.0, etc.).  An inexpensive way of dipping your foot in that pool is the 50mm f/1.8 for just over $100.  It’s a favorite among the Canon crowd who love that “Bokeh” effect.

Bill

Bill Minton

Hey Matthew – quick question.  Using the Av method, with it set as wide as possible, to get the fastest shutter speed, would you want to set a high ISO, or leave it on Auto?  On Auto, would the camera possibly try a mix of both settings, causing a slower shutter speed?

Tina

Thank ya’ll so much. This helps more than you know. I refer back to your comments all the time when taking photos.
And any new thoughts on this are very much appreciated.
For other explanations….
I do have the original lens that came with the camera. I do want to buy a new lens but not really sure which lens to get for the range of photos I am taking. Mainly the drag racing.
The night time shots are the hardest for me with the original lens, I can’t seem to find a happy medium. There is good light at the drag strip but maybe too much light. My camera focus’s on the light sometimes. Its the blurring the cars. I am trying to work around it.
If you have a facebook you can add me (Tina Scott in Blossom, Texas and The Paris Drag Strip in Paris, Texas) and see the photos that I have been taking and maybe give me some tips.
I also want to take some senior and graduation photos and family photos in the coming days for some friends and family, any tips would be great. All will be outdoors.
I really appreciate all the help, it has made this learning experience so much better. Thank you soo much!

SIR KIRK

This artical has been very helpful. But I was expecting more on video shooting. I am planning to buy a DSLR 80% for shooting video. I have read that the Canon 7D shoots film like video… can’t afford so it gonna be th 60D or T3i. Which should I get for shooting film like videos and what lens is best for shooting videos?
thanks in advance.

Kirk

MATT,
THANK YOU FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE. This information is very helpful. Think I’ ll get the T3i.

C Mintz

I currently have a Canon Digital Rebel xti and am looking to purchase either a T3i or T2i. I mostly want to take pictures of my kids. Getting close up/portraits is a desire as well as general action pics of kids. The shooting video is nice and as I understand both cameras have that capablity with the t3i having digital zoom. What is the advantage of the digital zoom exactly? Also I read that the t3i can act as a control module for off camera ettl flash and the t2i can’t. What exactly is the importance of that? Would that make a better portrait pic. I’m not a professional photographer and would like to know the differences of those two capablilties that the t3i has over the t2i before purchasing. I don’t want to buy the t3i if the t2i will do. Thanks!

Anky

Hi Matthew, Alfred
I joined this community for two reasons.
1) I just bought a t3i and its my first DSLR
2) After reading all the above discussions, I am very disappointed with my purchase.

Is t3i worth a buy ? I can still return it and get an upgrade.
You guys do a great job, in the way you have managed this forum, please suggest me.

I like capturing cars passing by and also kids in action, and i do understand that it’s the person holding the camera which restricts the camera capabilities. But still what should i opt ( t3i or 60D ) ? and what lenses will be the best.

I currently have basic kit lens , and 55-250 mm lens.
I’ll be eagerly waiting for your reply .

Anky

Thanks a lot Matthew for your prompt and quick response. ( you rock )
Yeah few things bothers me at the moment,
1) Captured few moving objects, as in cars on freeway, The result to my surprise was a blurred image.. again may be its just me or this has got to do with fps ? ( i do need photography classes in the earlier case )
2) Night shots are significantly noisy(ISO 6400, exposure levels etc). I don’t know its just me or the limitation with camera.
3) To be honest, one major factor is that I got my deal (t3i + 18-55mm + 55-200 , 8gb class 10 SDHC card + lowerpro case) for $1005, Which is equivalent to EOS 60d + 18-135mm deal online.

I can understand that, My 3rd point drags the topic somewhere else, which is not relevant to this thread, but all this really bothers me. Thanks again :)

Bill Minton

Hi Anky,

Take your T3i outside today and put it in Tv mode which is shutter priority mode. That means you get to set the shutter speed, and the camera will adjust the aperture and ISO as necessary. Set your ISO to auto, and set your shutter speed (by rolling the wheel near the shutter button) until the shutter speed is 1/250th of a second.

That should be fast enough to stop motion and still low enough that it won’t take a crazy aperture mode to compensate for the lack of light. If it’s a sunny day, the ISO shouldn’t go too high which will keep noise in the photo to a minimum. That also means you could use a higher/faster shutter speed like 1/500th or higher to really stop those speeding cars!

Let us know if you still see blurry shots with a shutter speed of 1/250th of a second.

Bill

Selin

Yes, camera choice can be very personal. I’m a female, and on the very short side of female. Even the t3i is very large for my hands. It simply isn’t an option for me to go any larger on the camera size, I would never carry it around.

So something for those with small hands to think about. the 60d is significantly weightier and larger for those with small hands.

sylv

Super helpful…thanks so much! I’m going for the Canon 60D. I’ve had a ‘rebel’ for the last so many years and am ready for a bit more.

Julian

Thanks for posting this up! answered all my questions

Lindsey

Hello. I am looking to invest in either the T3i or 60D. I will be using this camera to take professional quality pictures of my 8 month old son. I really want vibrant, precise photos that will not be blurry– ones that will capture every detail of his portrait, whether posed or action shots. Can you help me to decide which camera to purchase? To go one step further, because I am looking to invest in only one lens (for now), what one would you suggest for my needs?

Thank you! Lindsey

Lindsey

Thank you, Matthew!

I’m definitely going to take a photography class. Even though I am a beginner, and plan to use the camera for personal use only, I really do want to master the use of whatever camera I choose. I am nervous that if I purchase the T3i, I will regret not investing the $100-$200 extra dollars to purchase the 60D. After reading your articles, it seems as though the 60D has the edge for fast shots and the T3i excels in it’s video capabilities. I do not intend to use the camera for video. How, “fast” is “fast” for the action shots? I guess I’m having trouble understanding the difference in what you could shoot with the T3i v. 60D in terms of action shots (where you could notice the difference in the fps.

I read your article on the best lens to choose– thank you for the recommendation. I did not realize that the 18-55mm actually produces better quality photos than the 18-135– I never would have guessed that. Would the 18-55mm be a good base lens? I’m not sure how to decide between the 55-250 or the 50mm f1.8 (in addition to the 18-55mm that I will buy with the camera)?

Sorry for all of the questions!

Alfred Lopez

Hi Lindsey,

Let me try to answer your questions in Matt’s absence. Matt can chastise me later if I lead you astray. :-)

The 60D’s AF and faster fps (5fps vs 3fps of the T3i) means you’ll miss less shots. Though the realistic difference is marginal. But if it’s critical, then go for the faster camera. Keep in mind that the SD Card is a factor in the speed as well. Get the fastest SD card (XC, I believe) you can get.

To visualize “marginal” vs. a “significant” difference, the difference in speed between 7D and the 60D is 8fps vs 5fps (marginal IMO), but the difference between 7D and the T3i (or the 5D Mk II) is 8fps vs 3fps (significant). The difference between 1D Mk 4 and the 7D is 10fps vs 8fps (marginal IMO).

I’ve switched from high-speed shooting to single-shot mode, even on the 7D. Mostly because I shoot portraits. I even use this mode with fast moving object like toddlers and cats (though my cat actually likes the attention and will pose :-) ). So it’s a matter of “purpose”: I’m used to waiting for a decisive moment, though I do use high-speed shooting at weddings on occasion.

Lenses: though the 18-55mm lens is a good “all around” lens, the reason for the 50mm f/1.8 recommendation is to be able to take pictures in low-light situations when flash is no appropriate. Also, the larger aperture will produce better portraits by separating the subject from the background/foreground (an effect known as “bokeh“). The 18-55mm zoom has a maximum aperture of f/3.5 wide open (18mm) and f/5.6 on the long end (55mm). These apertures, though they produce some bokeh, may not produce a pleasing one. Also, they are not wide enough for low-light shooting as previously mentioned.

Hope this helps shed some light. I tend to be a bit long-winded.

Cheers,

Alfred

Just Pete

Lindsey, MATTHEW, Alfred, et. al.,

I asked this very question a few short months ago regarding T3i vs 60D. I decided on the 60D and love it to this point. However, MATTHEW (got that wrong last time oops) is absolutely right regarding what makes a great photo. You will run into more than a few “pix snobs ” who think you are no kind of photographer unless you drop 5K and pop for Canon “L” lenses…..wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong wrong. The thing is this, are you going to print with your 5K job, in which case all the sensor settings are almost moot. Same if you are only going to view on monitor….is it true HighHigh Def?…If not then sensor size and yadi, yadi, yadi mean nothing. Buy the cheaper camera T3 unless you NEED HD movies instead of the 60D or 50D or other closely priced model. Besides, 3 years ago the ‘top of the line’ couldn’t do what the ‘cheapos’ do now…so that kind of talk is all hot air.

Get a solid entry level Rebel (which is NOT called Rebel outside USA, no?) and affordable lenses then LEARN TO LOVE TAKING GOOD PICTURES! Spend money on speedlights, remotes etc., and you will be fine.

I promise a true professional photographer could pose a professional model and take better pictures with a Coolpix or SureShot than a ‘wanna-be tech talking pic-snob.’ Most modern equipment in phenomenal so don’t let anyone steer you off that path. I am upgrading with various lenses and and shopping smart, which is a little cheaper buy gets me taking lots of pictures. As I heard one guy say recently regarding those snobs, “…sell a couple photos that actually get published, then go out and spend $5K on a Canon 1D (or whatever the latest and greatest is).”

For most of us photography is a FUN and INTERESTING HOBBY….let it be THAT at a reasonable cost. Not every coin collector has an amazing set of all proof $20 gold coins valued at 50K +. Some collect state quarters and love it just as much. The same applies to camera equipment.

Thanks to all who have responded to an initial post of mine and good luck to all!

Lindsey

Thank you, everyone! I really appreciate your comments. Because I’m new to photography, I’m going to limit the number of lenses that I buy at this point (until I get out and practice). I’m not going to invest in the L series lenses, but am sure that I will want to in the future. Are they compatible with both cameras? Thought I should ask this before I make the camera investment.

Also, because I will be shooting a lot of portraits, with the blur background, what lens would you recommend? 35mm f/2.1?

I’ll try not to bother you all too much with more questions until I do additional reserach:)

I REALLY appreciate your feedback. I can’t thank you enough!

Alfred Lopez

Lindsey,

For portraits I would recommend the 50mm f/1.4 or the 85mm f/1.8. You can also use, as an alternative, the EF-S 60mm f/2.8 macro lens. It is a very sharp lens and renders great colors (http://fauxtojournalist.com/2010/11/macro-lens-for-macro-photos/). The only thing you will contend with is the autofocus. Anything beyond three feet away will most likely require manual focus. The lens hunts too much after about three feet. This is normal macro lens behavior.

As far as compatibility is concerned, any EF-S lens will ONLY fit on crop sensor cameras. It will not fit full frame cameras like the 5D Mk II. This may not be a problem because 90% of the Canon camera line up is crop sensor anyway.

Cheers,

Alfred

Alfred Lopez

Lindsey,

This photo was taken with the 60mm macro lens.

Alfred Lopez

Matt,

My lens eventually focuses but it takes a looooooooong time. I also have the camera set to stop focusing when the lens has a problem. So I just manually focus at those times.

So I guess somebody lied to me about the macro lens. ;-)

Thanks,

Alfred

Nauman

Excellent reply/information, very realistic and practical. Thanks

Nicholas

Hi Matt,

Loved the review I was myself stuck in a dilema, either to buy the 600D or 60D. I finally bought the 60D 3 days ago and I’m very happy but I’m still not 100% if I should keep it. I was recording some video in low light and I seem to get lots of noise at high ISO and when I look at other 60D low light videos on youtube they don’t seem that grainy with the same setting i used.

Any tips or suggestion? Because I love shooting photos and videos that’s why I got the 60D

Cheers,
Nick

Nicholas

Hey matt,
thanks for your reply. I have another question, I currently have a sigma 18-200mm but no IS or HSM or USM on it. And I’m looking everywhere for a lens that can replace it, I went from canon to sigma to tamron, my eyes are on a 17-70mm sigma OS HSM. But I want your opinion on which according to you can replace my 18-200mm lens.

Nick

hello my name is michael and im 18 and i will be gettin a canon 60d for my birthday cause i picked it over the t3i because the t3i didnt come with the 18mm-135mm lens that the 60d came with ,

a little about myself im a young music artist and i am looking to make myself more professional

my question is will it be worth it cause i will be using it to shoot music videos and do photo shoots ?

thank u very much this is very helpful but i have another quick question, is the t3i really almost the same as the canon 60d as in picture quality and video quality?

thank u very much MATTT great help:) also this is a amazing website u run by the way

Mike,

I am starting to get into photography and am blow away with info overload! Like lot’s of hobbyists and wanna-be semi-pros, I’m looking into the Canon T3i vs 60D (vs 7D as possible, way expensive upgrade).

I really don’t care about “rebel” stamped on my camera if it works well. I believe the product should speak of the artist instead of the equipment. A dude named Picaso did OK for himself using a pencil on paper which is less than 18 megapixels, right?

Anyway, I want to shoot portraits and semi-pro models with eye looking to expanding from there. I know the 60D is faster burst and fpm but I am NOT shooting NASCAR or drag racing for publication…if it works better great, but I don’t NEED it right now.

I am intrigued by each cameras video capability….articulated screen is cool. But I read the 60D has a noise issue with regards to focus motors being heard on video. 1) is this true? 2) how is it a manual focus video has ANY motor sounds at all.

Who knows, since they have HD vid function included, I might use it instead of my simple canon video camera which is a little too small to actually handle easily.

FInal 2 issues….First, I am a big guy with largeer hands and small set ups are almost too small…I don’t mind weight and prefer size, which goes for button and controls and everything.

Last, I had Canon 35mm film camera, remember them? Still have a couple lenses left over and wonder if these will fit and should they affcect my decision for camera and possible lens lit. 2 lenses are: EF 35-80mm 1:4 – 5.6 (Power Zoom) and EF 80-200mm 1:4.5 – 5.6 ii (manual)

Please help me pick….I’m leaning to higher function 60D due to better burst and higher fps but video noise bothers me if issue. And a little scared of T3i smaller size lighter weight. Or should I chuck them both and cough up the cash for a 7D which seems awesome! Maybe I’ll grow into it?

Love your answers to others, I hope you can help me! Thanks

Mike,

Sorry about all the typos and spelling errors from my posted question…I’m not as big of an idiot as I come off…..opps, should have spell checked. Big hands made tyipng harder as well. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it :-)

Suzy Richman

Hi: I have been thinking of upgrading my camera. I currently have a Rebel XT and pretty much do everything on automatic. My passion is macro floral photography, so I have the Canon 100mm macro lens (the BEST!). I have been blowing up my photos on canvas (gallery wrapped), from 18″ square up to 40″ square and then 36 x 48, etc. I have also been selling my canvasses at art fairs, etc. Now, although my photos look great, I am pretty much a camera idiot…I do any post processing with Aperture on the mac. Of the two, which would be a better camera for me and would either be that much different than the XT? Also, my understanding is that the higher pixels on both would be much better for large photos as opposed to the Rebel XT.

I do like the articulated screen, and I would definitely like to advance my camera skills. Also, I read somewhere that the 60D “left out” the micro AF feature (whatever that means…does the XT have it?). How would this affect my shooting?

Thanks!
Suzy

Suzy Richman

Thank you for your quick response. I am going to go to a camera store and look at both. Then I will pass this on to my husband. He is going to Burning Man so I thought I deserved an upgrade! I will let you know what I decide.

This is a great site!

Suzy

Ting Lik

I am looking into D7000 and 60D, they keep saying D7000 is in the same class as 7D instead of 60D. I saw couple other reviews… but I am wondering how important and how big of a difference are those features on D7000, does it worth extra couple hundred?

Ting Lik

I do mostly sport event, parties, and landscape. Hope these is not too wide of a range…

Ting Lik

I am looking at Canon EOS 60D Digital SLR Camera with Canon EF-S 18-135mm IS lens + Canon 55-250mm f/4-5.6 Lens + Camera Bag + 8GB Memory Card for $1040, should I go for it? or should I wait and go for D7000?

Ting Lik

Thanks for the input Matt,

I think I am going to stick with 60D because of the overall cost seems to out weight the high ISO IQ, 39 AF points, and the .7 fps shutter speed advantage from D7000. (The only three features that holds me from 60D) I am very careful user, so the build “materials” don’t mean much to me. The remaining question for me is that whether I should sell the kit lens to get a good lens or just stick with this two… what do you think? What other accessories should I be looking into?

PS. One more question… It comes to my attention that most camera reviewers are Nikon fan, I am wondering what drive you toward Nikon instead of Canon or other brand? Just wondering…

Alfred Lopez

Matt,

So what exactly *do* you shoot with and with what lens(es), primarily? I’m sure you’ve collected gear throughout the year (hey, that rhymes!), but you must have settled down to a subset of that.

Just wondering…

Alfred

Jean

Question…I have never used an SLR camera before…I should go for the Ti3 rather than the 60d? What would be the best choice for telephoto zoom lens. I will be photographing portraits, landscapes, nature…lots of animals and birds at a distance. Would appreciate any suggestions. I was looking at the canon 55-250mm.

Vijay

The Bigger battery, brighter view finder and top LCD which displays current settings may also be considered in favour of 60D.

Joshua

OK. I have a Sony a390 right now and am thinking about upgrading to a better camera. I do mainly bird photography but will also shoot wildlife and nature scenes. I’ve been looking into a couple cameras. Which do you think would fit me best. I am looking for a good camera that will keep me for at least 10 years. Here are my choices: Canon EOS rebel t3i, t2i, canon EOS 60d, and the Nikon D5100. Thanks!

Rick

Hey Matthew,
I currently have the canon G9 and I’ve thought of upgrading to either the t3i or D60. This will primarily be used for regular personal use as well as images for my website(soulshark.net) Will I see a dramatic increase in image quality if I were to step up to the dslr? Thanks for any advise you can give.

Rick

AH

I appreciate your articles & read the reviews on the T3i, T2i & 60D. I’m going to purchase a T3i due to my primary purpose of using the camera is video. Any suggestions on the sound component of the camera?

Jonathan

Thanks for a great round up. I’m looking at these three cameras in particular and found this comparison enormously helpful. Actually would probably be fine with the Rebel but may get the 60d purely due to the “in-hand” feel. I don’t like the cramped feeling of the T series and it’s probably worth the money for a camera that feels more substantial and fits the hand well.

Thanks again!

Robin

Hi Matt – after having my 2nd DSLR camera lost/stolen in an airport, I must get a replacement for my Canon xsi. It had an 18-200mm lens that made all the difference for me so I actually still have the original Canon 18-135 that came w/ the kit so I only need to get the body. What I’d like to do is spend less on the body ideally to justify paying for a new tele lens. That’s why I’ve been thinking T2i but hate thought of buying a discontinued camera when the latest & greatest (?) is there. I have a point & shoot w/ video plus a video camera but like having all in my one good camera. Being short, the variable angle screen is appealing but truly that’s the only big draw I think. Would you save & get T2 & put extra $100 towards the lens?

Brian

Hi Matthew,
It’s Brian the newby 60D owner.
Per your suggestion, I signed up for this site.
I have a timely question for you.
Tonight, I have a nice perch from which to shoot the full moon.
Being that I’m a beginner with a 60D, how do you suggest I shoot it?
Thanks,
Brian

Brian

:)
Remember, I’m a newby on this site too!!
Another article somewhere else suggested ISO 100, F11, and 1/100 with bracketing. The good news is that I now know how to go to Manual and adjust those settings..The bad news is that it’s cloudy.
:(

damianicus

Hi folks. I’ve had my 60D for a few weeks now and thought I’d come back and chat about some reactions. First off, I’m very happy with the 60D it’s an amazing camera. Having finally made the decision after 9 months of research and giving up on Panasonic Lumix GH2 ever being released in the US. Besides I held one the other day and it feels like a tiny toy camera in my hands.

I have the 18-135 kit lens and I’d say I wish I’d gotten the 18-200 because that one has a locking mechanism. The zoom is a tad loose on the 18-135. If its extended and you go to attach the lens cap.. it pushes it in. If you add some macro filters to the end and point the camera down, the weight easily pulls the lens out. Pulling it out of my bag (I store it lens down) pulls the lens out a bit sometimes.)

The next lens I’m buying is the 50mm 1.4 prime. There is a 1.8 that’s only $100 but I’ve read it’s plastic and it will fall apart. I’d rather spend $300 more on something that’ll last. Then after that a 18mm or 30mm wide angle.

I bought the Rode Stereo Videomic for my 60D. Plugging it directly into the camera gives you LOTS of hiss. So you pretty much are left with A. Getting a Juicedlink box and Magic Lantern firmware or B. Buying a digital recorder like the Zoom H4n or better and syncing in post with PluralEyes. Even though the 60D has manual audio control the dreaded AGC (automatic gain control) is still there and will add hiss to any mic you plug in.

Magic Lantern is pretty cool and there will be a working 60D version. It disables AGC, adds live audio levels to recording and doesn’t void your warranty. It runs with the firmware not over it, and you can reboot to factory settings.

By the way, after I bought the Rode I learned the Stereo VideoMic is for concert/band recording. And the VideoMic (shotgun) is for interviews (either on-camera or boom). Don’t get the old VideoMic shotgun as a VideoMic Pro (smaller) is coming out soon.

SBB

I’d like to second the high praise for the 50mm 1.8. I’ve had mine for what might be close to 10 years and it does not even show many signs of age. It’s not fancy, it does not make you look cool, but boy does it’s performance belie it’s price and appearance. I wish all lenses had the same price/performance ratio.

damianicus

Good to know. I was leery of the 1.8 after reading all the reviews on Amazon and B&H. High praise for it sure, but there were a few reviewers who said it didn’t last. And after all the money I spent on camera and accessories I was leaning toward the better lens.

kloomnik

From background of 35 years of photography hobby, I’d like with your permission to offer a couple of non-conformist views.

1. The distinctions you’ve made between the 600D and the 60D are mostly insignificant. They make a difference to specs enthusiasts, not for actual photography. It reminds me of those audio enthusiasts in the 70s who argued to no end about a couple of percentage points in specifications of wow & flutter or total harmonic distortion. They should have spent more time listening to music.

2. My own speculation is that there is no “fancy new business model” here (I guess you mean “original” or “unusual”?). I would venture that in the next iteration Canon will distance the 70D from the *00 line (or delete it altogether).

3. Finally, I find the whole classification of cameras (used by *everybody* who writes camera reviews!) as for “beginner” vs. “enthusiast” vs. “advanced amateur” vs. “semi-pro” vs. “pro” etc etc etc — to be unconvincing at least. If cannon comes with a camera between 600D and 60D the reviewers will struggle hard to find a new tag…

What is called “beginner SLR” today has hundreds of options more than a pro-SLR in previous decades. So when an 80s “pro” buys a 600D today he becomes an “amateur”? You think a 1/8000 shutter speed or 96% viewfinder coverage makes one a better photographer?

I have a relative who shoots the most incredible nature photographs all over Africa with a 400D (he buys expensive lenses though!). The only specification that is convincing in this matter is probably “ruggedness”. So until someone takes both 60D and 600D to the rain forest and comes back with conclusions, I’ll remain a skeptic.

These classifications are propagated by camera manufacturers, who must justify different lines and costs differences. So buy the cheapest and spend the money on lenses.

Someone should sell a little sticker you can paste on the “Rebel T3i” logo with “60D” or better yet “7D”…

kloomnik

First, I applaud your articles for having better comparison charts and more depth than most.

And I will concede that some of the photographers out there (under 5%, IMHO) need uncommon features.

What annoys me is that everybody calls something as sophisticated as 600D as a “good first SLR for beginners”, only because they must reserve their praise for higher-priced models.

An anecdote: My first SLR (1978) was a Minolta XG7 with 50mm f/1.7 lens (plus two Celtic lenses — Minolta’s second line). It was stolen after 4 years and I “upgraded” to a more “professional” Nikon FE and eventually FE2 and FM3n, and bought half a dozen expensive Nikkor lenses along the way. Looking back, most of my favorite photos were taken with the Minolta…

Finally, my previous advice was: Spend your MONEY on good lenses. My only other advice would be: Spend your TIME on composition, developing a personal style, studying other photographers’ photos, etc — don’t pay too much attention to minuscule differences in specifications. I apologize if it sounds too preachy :-)

Brian

Hello Matthew,
I wrote about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I was the beginner wondering your thoughts about which camera to purchase. I mentioned that I liked the idea of the T3i’s features for beginners. I also mentioned that I hoped to start learning photography. You definitely leaned towards the 60D. Anyway, a few weeks ago Best Buy was nice enough to give me a 30 day (it’s usually 14) window to buy the 60D and then check out the T3i when it comes available to see if I want to switch. My experience as a beginner with the 60D has been amazing. It actually DOES have the various filters and ambiences that I thought only the t3i has. Fast forward to yesterday when I stopped by the Best Buy to check out the t3i. It reinforced how much of a powerhouse the 60D is compared with the t3i. The t3i feels more like a point and shoot. The frames per second difference is dramatic. The only other beginner feature I found on the t3i was the dialogue on the screens that explain every single detail. As a beginner, I was able to figure out those things on the 60D. As a beginner, the 60D allows me to take better photos, hands down. Now I just have to grow into it.
Just wanted to thank you. If I hadn’t stumbled upon this site, I would have made a mistake in my camera purchase.

Brian

Brian

I forgot..It also has the scene type which has things like sunset, daylight, cludy, sunshine, etc..Also the ambience as I mentioned. Plus, it even has the feature where you control background blur. So it’s great for a beginner.
I’ll definitely check out the membership. Thanks again.

kloomnik

I wonder about your statement “it [60D] also has the thumb wheel for exposure compensation, probably my favorite Canon feature of all time.”

It implies that the 600d doesn’t have this.

I own a 450D and when you press the Av button (with your thumb probably) you can use the wheel (index finger probably) to change exposure compensation.

I doubt that the 600D deleted this.

rey

well I recently ordered the camera at BHphoto.com for 899$ went with the body and bought a 35mm f2 it’s a great lens that will do for most of your shooting needs. Also, the 50mm 1.8 is one I love great photos “BOKEHLICIOUS” -DIGITALREVtv KAI. but seriously buy the body only research lenses and buy the one you will need the most!!!

Damian Dodd

So LoL I got sick of waiting for the GH2 and bought a 60D. Also got a Rode stereo mic for video. I’ll just manual focus. Wish the 60D AF was faster. In live mode for stills it’s really slow.

SBB

Did you get the 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS UD lens? I think, more than seeing sample pictures, hearing about your experience with the lens would be most helpful. Most importantly, I’d like to know if you regret getting this lens instead of some other lens you now wish you had gotten. I really appreciate your responses as your perspective has been very significant to my wife.

Bill Minton

Yes, that’s the kit lens I got. No, I don’t regret it, but remember, I don’t have any experience with anything else to compare it to other than decent P&S cameras; mine being a Canon SD-950 IS.

From the things I’ve read, and what I understand those to mean, a lens that went down to say f/2.8 would have been nice, but I think overall, the lens it came with has given me something to learn with, and something that will work for a wide range of photos. It might not be the best fit for taking action photos of my two little basketball players in the dimly lit gym they play in, but I’m guessing for nearly everything else I’ll be photographing, it’ll do extremely well.

I’m certain you’re a much better judge of what the kit lens’ limitations are than I am. From the usage I’ve put the camera though so far though, I’ve been very happy with it.

SBB

OK, I have decided on the Canon 60D. And, of course, that’s not where it ends. Now I have to decide if I buy the body only and purchase the lens of my choosing or if I take advantage of the very significant price breaks available with the kits and get a lens that I may otherwise not have chosen. I normally would not go this route but at about $1200 the kits with the 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS UD lens seems like a pretty good deal. Do you know much about this lens? If money was not much of a consideration I think I would choose the EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens but it is certainly over my budget and I feel uncomfortable investing in the EF-S line. So my third option (which is where I think I’m leaning) is the EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens. My only concern about this last option is that 28 mm is not very wide with the 1.6 crop factor.

I should probably put a little bit of context into this. There are only two lenses in my kit that I think are worth keeping around: 1. a Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 and 2. Is a rather old but still very serviceable Canon EF 100-300mm 1:4.5-5.6 USM Zoom. What I’m looking for is a relatively high quality walk-around lens, ideally, with image stabilization.

Thanks in advance for any help you or anyone else on this board is willing to offer.

Bill Minton

As is probably apparent, I’m still an SLR newbie, but I did recently purchase the 60D w/the kit lens. If there’s any type of basic photos you’d like me to take with it (macro, indoor/outdoor photo, particular settings, action/still, etc.) I’d be happy to take them for you so you can see how it does.

Bill Minton

I would recommend heading to BestBuy, buying one with the kit lens, and taking it home to try out. You get 14 days (45 I think if you are a Silver Reward Zone member) to play with it before returning it if you aren’t happy with it.

The same should apply to lenses as well. If they have everything there, then buy the kit and an additional lens or two and decide what you like that way.

I’d use BestBuy to determine what you want if they have it, then decide if you want to keep some portion of your purchase from there, or return it all and get it cheaper online if possible.

I’m more than happy to help out any way I can, but getting one in your hands and using it on your own turf will help out much more than anything I can tell you.

SBB

Thanks for a great article addressing exactly the questions I was contemplating about new camera purchase. I had been leaning toward the T3i because I thought it would encourage my wife to use the camera more. I have been shooting with an SLR for over 25 years and, frankly, I would be shooting most often. Do you think having me around would supplant the benefits of the guide and also allow us to have a better built camera? Most of the time I would be around (I just want to be in some of the family pictures). The only times she would be using the camera without me would be for ethnographic video/interviews (stationary subjects with plenty of setup time) and document capture should be very easy for her to master. After reading your article I am now swaying in the direction of the 60D.

Bill Minton

Matthew is probably the one you’re looking to hear from, but as someone with a skill level that probably matches more closely to your wife’s than yours, I can tell you that the 60D has done an admirable job in my hands, and I’m sure it would in hers as well. The added battery life, better focusing, and faster shutter speeds would probably push me over the edge if I were you, even more so with your experience.

SBB

Thanks to both of you for your replies. I really believe I would have mistakenly pulled the trigger on the T3i had I not discovered your site. I’m a little embarrassed to admit it, I’m kind of exited about not having the word rebel emblazoned in red across the front of my camera (that’s got to be worth at least $50).

Manny

One huge point missing from the discussion –
60D has three times the battery life of T3i…that, coupled with the much better AF and build quality might be worth the $100 price differential.

syaf

i still dont get the new ‘video snapshot’ thingy.. what is it actually? the camera can shoot 4k pixel res of picture right? does this snapshot combined to become a 4k res video?? is thats the case..it think its awesome..if its not..what the hell is it?

JC G

So I’m going on a trip to the Galapagos Islands in June and I’m planning on purschasing the Canon 60D since it is currently the same price as the T3i with equal or better features. I will be carrying three cameras: the Canon SX1 IS for video, the Canon SD990 for quick point and shoot shots, and the Canon 60D for portraits and landscapes when I have more time to compose shots. My question is which lens or lenses to purchase. I’d prefer one lens but could go with two. Thanks in advance.

JC G

Thanks. I’m probably going to go with the 18-55 and 55-250 for the best photo quality although I’m fairly new to the world of DSLR. Any recommendations on a camera bag that could hold the camera and two lens?

Bill Minton

This is the one I just ordered – http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16830992259

$40 shipped for an actual Canon bag.

7.50″ Height x 13.50″ Width x 8″ Depth

Brian

Hi JC,
I was thinking about the Galapagos too, but don’t know the best way to see them. Any suggestions?
Thanks.

JC G

I’m actually doing it through my school. Everything was set up through an educational touring company. So I really don’t have much advice. I know they do offer a number of tours though reputable companies online. Just be aware that most of them are $3500+ for a week long tour.

Brian

Sounds like it will be a great trip.

Bill

I just wanted to stop back by and say thanks for all of the help Matthew. I went to BestBuy and got the 60D last night. They matched their .com price which dropped it by $160, then accepted the 12% off coupon which dropped it another $136. Coupled w/the $110 in reward zone certificates & $310 in gift cards, I feel like I got it for a steal! :D

The battery totally was drained when I opened it, and the kids were in bed by the time it was done charging so I haven’t taken many shots with it yet, but is does have a very solid feel to it. I began reading a book called Photography by Barbara London and John Upton which goes into easy to understand explanations of shutter speeds, f-stops, etc. complete with illustrations to help explain their points. It’s an older book, based more on film cameras, but those concepts still seem pertinent and are laid out in a manner I can comprehend.

I don’t expect magic in the dimly lit basketball gym w/the kit lens, but I’m still hopeful I’ll end up with a couple of keeper shots this weekend. Wish me luck!

JC G

You mentioned picking up a book or taking a class to get acquainted with the 60D. Any recommendation for books?

Jonathan

To everyone that’s deciding between the T3i and the 60D, I’ve owned the Rebel XT for 4 years and really loved it but I’m definitely going to upgrade to the 60D. Once you reach a certain skill level with digital photography the Rebel line is just a little to beginner. If this is going to be your first DSLR go with the Rebel but if you’ve been shooting with a DSLR for a few years already or have a good understanding of photography fundamentals move up to the 60D or better, you’ll be happy you did!

Thanks for all the info and time you put in this article. Cheers!

Bill

Woke up this morning basically ready to pull the trigger on the 60D and my local BB is out of stock according to their site. An omen? :P

Brian

So is the t3i… :)
You should see which camera comes back to the store 1st..
Or…We can say that the 60D is so awesome, that it sold out.
Or..We can say it’s Matthews fault for his amazing reviews. :)

Bill

Good points! :D

I’m seriously considering driving to a town that’s about 45m away to pick one up. I have a 12% off coupon that only works in-store (until the 27th), so it would be worth the drive price wise.

I’ve also got close to $450 in reward zone certificates & BB gift cards. How can I *NOT* buy one? :D

Mallorie

Hey there….
I’m kinda right there with most of these people. I’m going back and forth between the t3i and the 60d. I’m very big into video. So would one be better then the other for me. I have so many people telling me one and the other and I don’t want to make the wrong choice. I’d love to hear your opinion on which one would be best for me being into videography!
Thanks so much!

Mallorie

Thank you so much for getting back to me so fast on this. I will be honest I am pretty new to these camera so I’m pretty much leaning on others knowledge of them. Unfortunately someone decided to sell me the t1i which isn’t an awful camera at all… but for video wise (which is what I told him) I really don’t think he made that right sell to me. Oh well… lessons learned. But with saying that… I don’t completely understand what you mean about the digital zoom. So thats something I would want… ? However you said its been awful… and so the t3i has it, but the 60d does not… is that right? Then with the snapshot mode… you kinda lost me with that, what exactly is that?
Thank you thank you for this!

damian dodd

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Not true. Lumix GH2 > Sony A55. SILENT autofocus during video like a camcorder. Only some were released to US. Panasonic replied to an email and said there will be full US release in March.

Also blows away Canons in many other aspects.
Lumix GH2 has 1. greater than 12 min record time. 2. Can use ANY lens from any manufacturer with adapter. 3. Has full 1080 video out (think big hard drive with endless record time for video) 4. Does not have Canon’s terrible moire issue. 5. Has far less rolling shutter distortion (panning left or right)

And the GH2 is only $300 more than the 60D.

Oh yeah, has a touch-screen.

damian dodd

Thanks for the GH2 nod. I didn’t mean to hijack the thread. Your reviews are very in depth and helpful.

I mentioned it because I am a freelance art director who is in need of a DSLR that shoots good video too and for the last six months have been comparing the 5DM2 vs 60D vs T2(3)i and Lumix GH2.

While the 5DM2 is the camera of choice for Doc film makers, it’s a bit out of my price range. And I’m guessing the 5DM3 will be released later this year. (hopefully with an upgraded processor and Canon video issues fixed)

Though I love Canons, I keep coming back to the Lumix GH2 mainly for the silent autofocus. I’ve also read it will autofucus faster than any camera on the market.

The delay of full US launch has had me eyeing the 60D. Though that T3i looks very very nice.

Brian

Hi Matthew,

I too am debating which one to buy, although I’m leaning towards the 60D.
I’m one of those beginners you’ve mentioned a few times. I’ve only used point and shoot, and loved those extra settings on my Canon SX20. Sunset was my favorite (Yes, I’m embarrassed). Anyway, it’s time to grow up a little and learn how to shoot.
Am I a T3i or a 60D?

Thanks for all your help in this article.

Brian

Brian

Thanks Matthew,
It’s my goal to take classes, and having the 60D will probably get me to classes quicker.
I mentioned below that the 60D actually has some of those in camera guides you were mentioning. Specifically, the one for more blurry, less blurry. I also found filters that control the intensity of colors, with one specifically for sunsets. So I do have some help with the 60D.
I REALLY appreciate your help.
Brian

Bill

I’m curious about what would make Brian more happy w/the 60D after 6 months if a photography class or seminar were in his future.

Brian

Hi Bill,

I had the 60D and t2i in my hands over the weekend and Best Buy.
The overall feel the 60D is much better for me. Hard to explain, but it feels like a serious camera. Also it seems to be built stronger. The T2i felt like my point and shoot. Still ok, but not like the 60D. Next, everything I’ve heard about the 60D autofocus, including from Matthew makes me feel that I’ll have a better chance to take better photos. When I was testing the cameras, it really did feel like the camera was focusing quicker..All a benefit for a beginner like me. Lastly, in sports mode the quickness between shots was incredible. I’d be happy with the t2i, but I’m ecstatic with the 60D. Again, giving a beginner like me a better chance of getting a good action shot.
I also thought I was getting a better lense with the 18-135, but it sounds like the Lens that comes with the t3i might be better.
So I think I made the right choice with the 60D.
Best Buy was great with me, though. They said that if the t3i comes out within 30 days, I can switch if i like it better.

Bill

Matthew or Brian,

Would it have been better to get the 60D body and a couple of (fairly inexpensive) lenses then?

Bill

I’m a newbie trying to decide between the as yet unreleased T3i and 60D, but I’m not sure what in camera guides and program modes the 60D is missing that you’re referring to. Could you elaborate?

Bill

Matthew,

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I’ve been leaning toward the 60D, but given how overwhelmed I am with understanding everything about F-Stops, Aperture, etc., I’m now thinking the extra “help” might be beneficial for me the first go around. For a total newbie like myself, would that be your take as well?

Another question I have for you is, I’m mostly looking to take pictures of my kids (3,4,7,8) who are of course often active, and are now getting into basketball (bad light, but small gym w/no real “seating”, so you are right on the floor with them). I understand that a prime lens might be best for that given the “speed” of them compared to zoom lenses, but for general purpose shooting and learning, would I be better w/the kit lens that comes w/the T3i or just getting the body and a different lens?

For reference, these are the two lenses that come w/the two models at my local BestBuy:
The T3i comes with an EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 image-stabilized zoom lens
The 60D comes with an EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 image-stabilized lens

Note that I’m sure I can get better prices online, but I’m using gift cards for a significant portion of the purchase.

Again, thanks for your time and the excellent comparison article!

Bill

Brian

The example above is also on the 60D..When I checked it out, I was surprised to see.

Bill

For at least some period of time, I can see where those two additional lines at the top would be beneficial to someone new like myself.

Your blog post makes the camera differences clear, but I’m curious as to how much of a difference the 9 cross-type focus points in the 60D will mean (in your opinion). Will they mean better, or simply faster auto focussing? Will that feature alone be meaningful enough to sway a purchasing decision?

My reasons for leaning toward the T3i are:
– Additional on-screen guidance
– Better video functionality
– Lighter
– Cheaper

My reasons for leaning toward the 60D are:
– Improved focus points
– Better? Kit lens (18-135 vs 18-55)
– Faster

Any as yet unstated thoughts on why the T3i might be better for beginners?

If only the 60D had the improved video support, or the T3i were faster. :D

Bill

Ok, so the cross-type points are a big deal. That’s good to know. I’d read that the differences were there, but hadn’t gotten a solid opinion on how meaningful they would be.

Now, will the video improvements in the T3i be as noticeable? I don’t really understand what the cropping mats offer, but my main focus for video would be clear videos of the kids of course. I’m not necessarily looking to zoom in from far away (say across a soccer field for example). Is that what the digital zoom in the video would be good for? Will both keep my subject in focus for the most part?

I apologize for all the questions. I’m about done, I promise! :-)

Bill Minton

You’re referring to the Canon budget lens from the recommendations page, correct? Would that do relatively well (better than my 60D kit lens) in the poor lighting indoor basketball shots? About what distance in feet would that be good for?

Bill Minton

Ahh, well good, that saves me some money. :)

I posted in the forums asking for help specifically for the ballgames. If you have any suggestions, I’d love to hear them.

Thanks again!

Johnny Boy Davis

Hi Matthew,

i wanna thank you a lot for your review! im actually planning on buying a camera since im doing graphic design now. and it involves photography too of course. im really going back and forth on getting choosoing what to get.

if you were to buy, what would you get?
i guess your opinion would help.

thanks alot!

Nate

Thanks for the review and the addition of weight. I actually will be waiting (hoping) for a slight price drop in the t3i, which will make it a lot more attractive & a perfect present for my girlfriend in a few months.

Allison

Thank you for writing this blog. I have been looking at getting a new camera, but keep going back and forth between the 60D and the T3i. Your blog answered most of my questions, but I still have one. Do you know if you can use the lenses that fit on the Rebel series with the 60D? Or do you have to buy all new lenses?

Simon Ng

Hello Matthew,
As usual, you did a fantastic job comparing the cameras. One more point that you might want to add is the size and weight of the camera.

Late last year, I offered my wife the choice between the 50D and the T2i. She picked the T2i purely for the weight of the body.